Oct 24, 2011 by The University of Edinburgh http://youtube.com/user/EdinburghUniversity
Dr Richard Milne, School of Biological Sciences, presents Critical Thinking on Climate Change: separating skepticism from denial.
1hr 20min Lecture. This talk is about the psychology behind Climate Science denial and skepticism. It covers:
- The science of Climate Change – Could we be wrong?
- The claims of ‘skeptics’ – Do they stand up to scrutiny?
- Making sense of the debate – The crucial distinctions
- Understanding scientists – Consensus and the mavericks
- Understanding Denial – Why are some people immune to evidence?
The one thing Dr Richard Milne doesn’t bring to this presentation is
critical thinking. It’s simply steeped in proving a foregone conclusion.
His biases are running rampant around any critical thinking he might be
capable of.
34:00 Global Warming by cleaning up soot and SO2 since 1980. Ooops. Let
that one slip in.
This guy knows nothing about Mars.
It’s no conspiracy. Virtually every scientist is a socialist, and they are
funded by socialist bureaucrats but the solution for global warming is only
coincidentally socialism.
You could start a forest fire with the straw men.
1:06:40 – Cannot quantify the effects or solutions as to degree or time.
Science makes predictions and on that he admits there is no consensus.
This is an admission that AGW is not science.
He goes on to claim that the best and worst models are “error bars”. You
can’t combine disparate models that way. Each model has its own range of
error which many of the other models are outside of. And their success at
predicting climate for the last 20 years has been abysmal.
1st lie: There are alternative energy sources to fossil fuel today. (They
just need funding.) FACT: There are no replacements for the scale of energy
from fossil fuels. Fuel sources do not need funding, only customers.
Saying there is a need for research funding simply obscures the fact that
wind, solar, bio etc. are marginal to below unity on energy return when all
inputs are considered. The only reasons they have ANY customers are niche
applications and government subsidies.
2nd lie: Opinion does not matter in science, only facts. Theory, which is
interpretation of facts, is nothing but opinion which often requires more
facts, better facts and better interpretation over time to be
constructive. Facts do not require a stampede to judgement.
3rd lie: Climategate revealed nothing important. Besides the back room talk
about how to push AGW, the most important revelation was that “correction
factors” inserted into the computer code resulted in the whole temperature
increase. This was after the hockey stick was debunked.
Replace the lecturer’s (labels?) of climate deniers with creationists. I
see no difference.
I stopped this when the speaker made reference to the BBC being a impartial
public broadcaster. HA If the BBC is anything like the ABC in Australia
it would be full of inner suburban left leaning “progressives” with a ting
of “GREEN”. Goodbye!
On the contrary, they (we) often say, what it it was the other way around,
and the temperature dropped by 1-2 deg celsius? This would cause global
problems for us human beings. Food production would drop drastically, and
people would literary freeze to death. This can cause real problems for
hundreds of millions of people. And on he goes with a new syllogism about
Chernobyl and radiation. The same joke, as 3 times before, just with
different parameters. And then the film Armageddon (Willis) …
BBC = Bad Bad sCience
Theory is theory. And I will not shut up. Furthermore I do not need the
paper. You have to prove CO2 rises temperature. It does not. It keeps heat
from the sun longer in the atmosphere. That is what the teory of Climate
gases is all about. And time and time we have to say this: It is in the
LOWER TROPOSPHERE, not at seal-Level, the temp should be rising, if the
climate gases were responsible for warming. As You well know, this is
barely the case. Thus there is no real proof that a 33% rise…
And he actually tried to parse what he considered healthy skepticism and
deniers.
Did he really say “We in the UK have an impartial broadcaster, the BBC”.
BWAHHAHAAHAHDOHAHADHFOOKOFFHAHAPuke,,,,
You’re calling me an idiot? I want everyone to look at this chart and tell
me who is the idiot here? Me or HessenDragoonie? tinyurl (dot) com (slash)
cadldg2 = NO WARMING in over 16 years! (With all the fear they seem to have
about ‘catastrophic’ warming you’d think they’d be DELIGHTED AND RELIEVED
to know it isn’t true but no, out comes their TRUE COLOR – a political
agenda not science.)
A good scientist filters information before he starts to consider it. Or he
will never reach any conclusion, he’ll be collecting data for ever. The
analogies of detective-work, makes one ask the question: Has the crime ever
occurred? Who died? What happened? To arrest people before crimes are done
will reduce crime, but is not good detective work.
the earth warmer in it self. Space is the real cooler of the earth’s
atmosphere. The sun is the real heat source. No infrared rays from the sun,
and temp on earth will be -200C. CO2 or not.
That’s an easily refutable statement, there’re some animal species well
adapted to live under high concentrations of CO2, eg naked mole rats (or
any other burrowing animal for the matter). Plants also grow perfectly with
more CO2. I’m not sure if you’re aware that the increase in atmospheric CO2
concentration since the preindustrial period has been of about 40%. If you
are at home with your windows closed, the CO2 concentration inside will
increase several orders of magnitude over those levels.
We have had some warming of about .75 C over the last century and a
half.CO2 is probably responsible for some of it.However the latest data
strongly suggests that the CO2 effect is quite small and will not lead to
dangerous warming.Even the last IPCC report[2013] concedes that Climate
Sensitivity is not as high as previously assumed.Your turn Giles!
The presentation appears to be more a beating of a straw man than serious
evaluation of competing views. For example: I may be measuring length of
daytime for 30 days and determine on basis of fact that the daytime is
shortening and we will run out of daylight within time certain. Since we
use undisputed facts, the ‘deniers’ who say that it happens every fall are
against the facts.
Separately, using simple “who benefits” criteria for discrediting others
cuts both ways. The scientists that can alarm more people get more grants
for research.
Climate change is real. BUT hiv does not cause AIDS. Hundreds of absolute
top scientists have that opinion. Look up Peter Duesberg etc. Perhaps the
leading authority on retro viruses.
The question that comes up at 1:07 is not answered any where near as well
as it could be. A great resource to answer more fully is Bill McKibben’s
essay ‘Global Warming’s Terrifying New Math’. Other than that, this is an
excellent presentation I look forward to sharing with all levels of people
educated or not on this hugely important matter.
DiD this Hippie Goose really say; “We in the UK have an impartial
broadcaster, the BBC”?
I almost fell off my chair laughing.
There has been no global warming since 2001. Starting in 1987, the global
warming doomsday pushers have been threatening disaster. It has been 27
years and none of your dire predictions have happened.
I really wish this had never become politicized. I am an anthropogenic
climate catastrophe skeptic. I am unconvinced by the evidence I have been
given before, and came here to find better evidence. All I got from this
guy was how my skepticism was a masquerade for wanting to disbelieve. I aim
to learn the truth. And here, I found little.
I have always been skeptical of man made climate change, mainly due to the
politics surrounding it and the people who will look at a single sunny day
and say “Oh it’s global warming”.
In any case, I found this video to be excellent. His logic is solid and he
doesn’t strike me as an evil pseudo science conspirator. On account of this
video alone, I can honestly say my view has shifted closer to the alarmist
side.
he is on a good grant
Fuck me!
The hippies have taken over the University here!
Why is 32% yellow? 32% is the right answer. Yes, no, and it’s not happening should all be red. You can’t prove something like this. It would be like trying to predict the weather, err wait, that’s what you’re trying to do. It’s good that you’re fighting for your job, I can respect that. However, I’m not so sure we need more of you. You enjoy this life because mining and oil industry allow it. What ticks me off is that you go on teaching this stuff like the people you are teaching it to have a future in science… Read more »
Warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history…When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” – UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist. “The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit; it doesn’t listen to others. It doesn’t have open minds… I am really amazed that the Nobel Peace Prize has been given on scientifically incorrect conclusions by people who are not geologists.” – Indian geologist Dr. Arun D. Ahluwalia at Punjab University and a board member of the UN-supported International Year of… Read more »
“Gather only evidence against your chosen suspect” is bad science, but it’s
exactly what the IPCC has done and it’s exactly what all the focus on CO2
does. They were only looking at man-made CO2.
Don’t listen to anyone who drinks a beverage flavored with genetically
engineered e-coli feces!
Making peer-reviewed lit freely available is easy: the author(s) just put a
downloadable version on their web page (if really necessary, one year after
the publication date).
Computer-scientists have always done so, and the issues are far less
pressing.
It’s indispensable not only for the general public but also for scientists
in poorer countries to remain up to date!
This is really brilliant.
This is really brilliant.
man made climate change? c’ mon dude dont be silly lol
man made climate change is a scandalous hoax!!!
we go enter an iceage within few years now moron lol