Marshall Shepherd: Slaying the “Zombies” of Climate Science

Published On: March 7, 2014
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It’s one of those theories that scientists have refuted or disproven time and time again, but they live on like zombies in the blogs and on the radio stations. One of the nation’s leading climate scientists explains how he goes about knocking down the “zombie theories” that plague our discussions about climate change.

One of the nation’s leading climate scientists explains how he goes about knocking down the “zombie theories” that plague our discussions about climate change. What is a zombie theory? Says Shepherd: “It’s one of those theories that scientists have refuted or disproven time and time again, but they live on like zombies in the blogs and on the radio stations.”

As the 2013 president of the American Meteorological Society, Shepherd is a leading international expert in weather, climate and atmospheric sciences, and recently briefed the U.S. Senate on climate and extreme weather.

A professor in the Department of Geography at the University of Georgia, Shepherd is director of the University’s Atmospheric Sciences Program. Shepherd spent 12 years as a research meteorologist in the Earth-Sun Division at NASA-Goddard Space Flight Center.

Shepherd was recently named the UGA Athletic Association Professor in Geography and 2004 was honored at the White House by President Bush with a PECASE award as one of the top young scientists and engineers in the country.

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    Justin Templer
    Justin Templer
    May 29, 2013 10:58 PM

    Zombie theories, drought was caused by global warming, cherry picked graphs
    that start right after 30 years of global cooling, the discredited Marcott
    et al hockey stick, cherry picked arctic sea ice graph that starts in 79,
    it was cooling from 1945-1977, new normal, thinking that when the sun
    activity drops off, that temps respond immediately, the idea that the
    billions of dollars don’t corrupt climate science, the idea you can trust
    the UHI polluted temperature record, energy renaissance.

    LauraLee Dooley
    LauraLee Dooley
    May 30, 2013 2:58 PM

    One of the nation’s leading climate scientists explains how he goes about
    knocking down the “zombie theories” that plague our discussions about
    climate change. What is a zombie theory? Says Dr. Marshall Shepherd: “It’s
    one of those theories that scientists have refuted or disproven time and
    time again, but they live on like zombies in the blogs and on the radio
    stations.” #TEDxAtlanta

    Justin Templer
    Justin Templer
    May 30, 2013 3:40 PM

    I’m disappointed in you, I thought you were smarter than that. Guess not.

    Ashley Wilson
    Ashley Wilson
    May 30, 2013 3:49 PM

    One of the nation’s leading climate scientists explains how he goes about
    knocking down the “zombie theories” that plague our discussions about
    climate change. What is a zombie theory? Says Dr. Marshall Shepherd: “It’s
    one of those theories that scientists have refuted or disproven time and
    time again, but they live on like zombies in the blogs and on the radio
    stations.” #TEDxAtlanta

    MrFlyduckfly
    MrFlyduckfly
    May 30, 2013 7:29 PM

    I would like to see all the climate scientists who believe in climate
    change line up opposite those who don’t on the National Mall. That would be
    a powerful visual/demonstration.

    Justin Templer
    Justin Templer
    May 30, 2013 8:33 PM

    You’re asking the wrong question. We know climate changes, we even know CO2
    is a GHC and has an effect on climate. What you really want to ask climate
    scientists if they believe man made CO2 is a major cause of climate change.

    Justin Templer
    Justin Templer
    May 30, 2013 11:35 PM

    You didn’t point out anything Mr. G-R-A-V-I-T-Y. I’m not offended by the
    groundless assertions in the least.

    Ralph Gauthier
    Ralph Gauthier
    May 31, 2013 6:04 AM
    MrCoffeeFiend
    MrCoffeeFiend
    June 1, 2013 1:30 AM

    I am not overly impressed by credentials. I am only impressed by what a
    person says.

    MrCoffeeFiend
    MrCoffeeFiend
    June 1, 2013 6:15 AM

    Glad to see you agree with me. “Dr. Shepherd’s opinion is based on
    science.” When he gets around to the science let me know. “what data? what
    studies? what reports?” I am not going to bring up all the data I have been
    going through for the last 12 years. I am not here to educate you. Go learn
    some things on your own first.

    Jason Major
    Jason Major
    June 1, 2013 8:32 PM

    The president of the American Meteorological Society attacks undying
    “zombie” arguments of climate change: Slaying the “Zombies” of Climate
    Science: Dr. Marshall Shepherd at TEDxAtlanta

    kaewonf8
    kaewonf8
    June 7, 2013 1:07 AM

    So. Zombies on steroids. Got it. Ted’s in great hands.

    Gran Dan
    Gran Dan
    June 11, 2013 4:19 PM

    via Phil Plait.
    Slaying the “Zombies” of Climate Science: Dr. Marshall Shepherd at
    TEDxAtlanta

    Shawn DeLuca
    Shawn DeLuca
    June 11, 2013 6:16 PM

    Good talk!

    Slaying the “Zombies” of Climate Science: Dr. Marshall Shepherd at
    TEDxAtlanta

    Sean Mclendon
    Sean Mclendon
    June 11, 2013 7:08 PM
    TEDx
    TEDx
    June 11, 2013 7:33 PM

    Today’s TEDxTalk: Climate change is happening now: Dr. Marshall Shepherd at
    TEDxAtlanta

    Scott Jordan
    Scott Jordan
    June 11, 2013 7:37 PM

    Today’s TEDxTalk: Climate change is happening now: Dr. Marshall Shepherd at
    TEDxAtlanta

    Lauren Egan
    Lauren Egan
    June 11, 2013 7:58 PM

    Today’s TEDxTalk: Climate change is happening now: Dr. Marshall Shepherd at
    TEDxAtlanta

    Dan J
    Dan J
    June 11, 2013 8:10 PM

    Today’s TEDxTalk: Climate change is happening now: Dr. Marshall Shepherd at
    TEDxAtlanta

    Pedro Pampolim
    Pedro Pampolim
    June 11, 2013 8:14 PM

    Today’s TEDxTalk: Climate change is happening now: Dr. Marshall Shepherd at
    TEDxAtlanta

    Phil Stracchino
    Phil Stracchino
    June 11, 2013 8:31 PM

    Dr. Marshall Shepherd talks about “climate science zombies”, by which he
    means allegedly-scientific arguments against climate change that have been
    completely and categorically refuted, but which denialists still regularly
    trot out and represent as contrary science.

    A point to note right out of the gate — you remember this “scientific
    controversy” over climate change we keep hearing about? Well, here’s the
    extent of the “controversy” : 3% of climate scientists describe themselves
    as merely ‘cautious’. The other 97% describe themselves as ‘concerned’ or
    ‘alarmed’.

    Some “controversy”, huh?

    Remember, according to young-earth creationists, there is a “controversy”
    about *evolution*. I hate to break it to you guys, but your evolution
    “controversy” is spelled D-E-N-I-A-L.

    +Stan Warren, recall the debunking article you reposted the other day, on
    which I pointed out that the guy was cherry-picking his data? Look at the
    global temperature animation in this talk. It illustrates the point
    perfectly. Sure, the *tropics* have scarcely changed; but look at what’s
    been happening in the arctic and the upper latitudes.

    Carlos Ochoa
    Carlos Ochoa
    June 11, 2013 8:32 PM

    Today’s TEDxTalk: Climate change is happening now: Dr. Marshall Shepherd at
    TEDxAtlanta

    EcoChoices.com
    EcoChoices.com
    June 11, 2013 8:54 PM

    Slaying the “Zombies” of Climate Science: Dr. Marshall Shepherd Slaying the
    “Zombies” of Climate Science: Dr. Marshall Shepherd at TEDxAtlanta

    EcoChoices
    EcoChoices
    June 11, 2013 8:54 PM

    Slaying the “Zombies” of Climate Science: Dr. Marshall Shepherd Slaying the
    “Zombies” of Climate Science: Dr. Marshall Shepherd at TEDxAtlanta

    juan escalante
    juan escalante
    June 12, 2013 12:03 AM

    Today’s TEDxTalk: Climate change is happening now: Dr. Marshall Shepherd at
    TEDxAtlanta

    Balkar Bawa
    Balkar Bawa
    June 12, 2013 1:24 AM

    Today’s TEDxTalk: Climate change is happening now: Dr. Marshall Shepherd at
    TEDxAtlanta

    frogjg2003
    frogjg2003
    June 12, 2013 2:24 AM

    Show me then. Show me scientific evidence that all this data is wrong. As
    for money, who has the most to loose if climate legislation gets through?
    Oil companies! Who has a lot of money to fight climate legislation? Oil
    companies! Who pays millions to politicians to stop such legislation? Oil
    companies! Name three lobbying sources that combined have more money than
    Shell, Exxon Mobil, BP, or any of the other big oil companies.

    Teo Tayobobayo
    Teo Tayobobayo
    June 12, 2013 2:50 AM

    *What is a zombie theory?*
    Says Shepherd: *”It’s one of those theories that scientists have refuted or
    disproven time and time again, but they live on like zombies in the blogs
    and on the radio stations.”*

    h/t to +Gran Dan big time

    Mark Gillican
    Mark Gillican
    June 12, 2013 4:52 AM

    Today’s TEDxTalk: Climate change is happening now: Dr. Marshall Shepherd at
    TEDxAtlanta

    Raleigh D
    Raleigh D
    June 12, 2013 7:45 AM

    Today’s TEDxTalk: Climate change is happening now: Dr. Marshall Shepherd at
    TEDxAtlanta

    夢露露
    夢露露
    June 12, 2013 8:20 AM

    Today’s TEDxTalk: Climate change is happening now: Dr. Marshall Shepherd at
    TEDxAtlanta

    Sueezedtight
    Sueezedtight
    June 12, 2013 1:37 PM

    It is the data that is showing the CAGW “theory” to be wrong. (Just as
    Feynman stated.) CO2 as a problem is all model-generated and those models
    are unable to predict ANYTHING that has yet to be verified. Totally useless
    yet that is what the whole meme is based on. Check your numbers. Greenpeace
    and other “green” organizations spend thousands of times more than oil
    companies on lobbying efforts in this sector. Big oil is making a mint from
    the new paradigm so why would they not support it?

    Sueezedtight
    Sueezedtight
    June 13, 2013 4:42 AM

    Feynman cautioned against “believing” a theory in the face of experimental,
    measured data that refuted it. See the evaluation of models vs. reality at
    Dr. Roy Spencer’s site. “STILL Epic Fail: 73 Climate Models vs.
    Measurements, Running 5-Year Means” Since 1998 the US government has spent
    almost a 100 billion on science and technology research, administration,
    education campaigns, foreign aid, and tax breaks related to “climate
    change”. That is one big trough and none of that went to auditing .

    frogjg2003
    frogjg2003
    June 13, 2013 6:09 AM

    He is one out of thousands of climate scientists. He is also of the opinion
    that Earth was “created by God’s intelligent design,” thus is “robust,
    resilient, self-regulating, and self-correcting, admirably suited for human
    flourishing.” That is dangerous thinking for a scientist to have. As for
    data, the 9/10 of the hottest years on record have been in the last decade,
    Arctic ice is near the lowest it’s been in decades; it was at it’s lowest
    in 06/07. C02 is the highest it’s been in millennia.

    Nicolas Ockier
    Nicolas Ockier
    June 13, 2013 5:45 PM

    Today’s TEDxTalk: Climate change is happening now: Dr. Marshall Shepherd at
    TEDxAtlanta

    pseudotruth
    pseudotruth
    June 14, 2013 8:24 AM

    The Bishop Hill web site is climate denier zombie central.

    frogjg2003
    frogjg2003
    June 15, 2013 1:36 AM

    An ad hominem is stating that a person is stupid, therefore their argument
    is invalid. My argument was that he holds a belief specifically about the
    environment that is stupid, therefore his argument should be taken with a
    grain of salt. That is not ad hominem and it is a legitimate argument.

    mike williams
    mike williams
    June 15, 2013 5:47 AM

    Hi Mate “exonerated” is a legal term McIntyre, Stephen; McKitrick, Ross
    (2003). “Corrections to the Mann et. al. (1998)McIntyre, Stephen;
    McKitrick, Ross (2005). “The M&M Critique of the MBH98 Northern Hemisphere
    Climate Index.Its dead scientifically.You did not touch my other correction
    for good reason.

    mike williams
    mike williams
    June 15, 2013 5:48 AM

    The 97% canard One recent survey of 12,000 academic papers on climate
    change found 97 per cent agree human activities are causing the planet to
    warm. re the 97% canard,,again science by polls..which was crap anyway..not
    sure your trying that.In fact, only 33.6 per cent of the 12,000 papers (
    roughly 1/3 of the 12,000, or about 4,000 papers) referred to anthropogenic
    global warming. It was 97% of that one-third who agreed that “human
    activities are causing the planet to warm.”

    frogjg2003
    frogjg2003
    June 15, 2013 6:57 AM

    The reason I didn’t touch your other correction was because I am unfamiliar
    with it, not because I had good reason to avoid it. After a quick look, the
    only criticism I see are from the deniers with little scientific merit. I
    understand what exonerate means. My point was that at no point was Mann or
    his colleagues ever found to have committed scientific misconduct. As for
    the scientific validity of his, his colleague’s and others’ findings, there
    are still models being made and they still agree.

    nol smit
    nol smit
    June 15, 2013 7:05 AM

    lol u are stupid

    Sónia Silva
    Sónia Silva
    June 15, 2013 10:29 PM

    #imoocac13

    vjt9
    vjt9
    July 18, 2013 6:11 AM

    i could answer that one for you ..But …It is difficult to get a man to
    understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it,
    so you probably wouldn’t understand. By the way, what data are you guys
    talking about …he didn’t present any data ….pictures of cartoon zombies
    is NOT DATA!

    Jonas Kölker
    Jonas Kölker
    August 2, 2013 1:44 PM

    Excellent talk. I think Dr. Shepherd’s argument against “Scientists want
    grant money” at 12:20 was probably the weakest part of his presentation. He
    argued “[if a scientist wants more money, report ‘dunno’]”. This builds on
    the assumption that money is granted to those who say ‘dunno’, rather than
    to those who say what the money-hander-outers want to hear, which might be
    an answer in one direction rather than the other. That may be true, but all
    Dr. Shepherd said was “I don’t understand”.

    John Lemieux
    John Lemieux
    August 24, 2013 4:03 PM

    “You are assuming that what he is saying is reality” No, thats not an
    assumption, it’s observed fact.

    MrCoffeeFiend
    MrCoffeeFiend
    August 24, 2013 6:40 PM

    Reality is relative to the observer. Take off your blinders and step into
    the light so that you can see better.

    psychotronik13
    psychotronik13
    September 25, 2013 8:37 AM

    If you do not believe in climate change, I wonder if you believe in
    pollution.

    psychotronik13
    psychotronik13
    September 25, 2013 8:42 AM

    6:50 I think they ask that question because they are used to people
    thinking God causes weather in order to punish sinners.

    IlluminatedMasses
    IlluminatedMasses
    November 3, 2013 3:00 AM

    Yeah.. the climate changes… no one is arguing that the climate is not
    changing. This is a political scheme to create a global tax that will fund
    global government and begin systematic global de-population. Google:
    Georgia Guidestones for proof.

    Velimir Krha
    Velimir Krha
    November 15, 2013 11:25 AM

    Someone who says that you can not cherry pick the data, is to often picking
    that last cherry.

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