ClimateCrocks.com: Just before his death, Carl Sagan warned us about the perils of a technological society where fewer and fewer people know, or care, what science says.
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Absolutely!
There seems to be a renewed war on science from many fronts.
Politicians don’t want people to develop a good skeptical BS detector..
Carl Sagan, my hero! =)
His last interview. Sage advice as true now as then
Carl Sagan inspired a generation of scientists with his work in and out of
the classroom. But he didn’t always present science with cheer. In this
clip, he passionately defends science with a grave warning. It’s something
we all need to hear.
From:
http://www.upworthy.com/a-science-icon-died-17-years-ago-in-his-last-interview-he-made-a-warning-that-gives-me-goosebumps-5?c=reccon1
And right there is the strongest argument for good education that there is.
Without education, the government runs us.
Carl Sagan and Government_ Charlie Rose.wmv
A Science Icon Died 17 Years Ago. In His Last Interview, He Made A Warning
That Gives Me Goosebumps. Carl Sagan and Government_ Charlie Rose.wmv
well…. I guess we’re fucked now
Carl Sagan isn’t as bright of a person as his desire for fame implies.
What he is using is what we in philosophy call part of the “end of history”
fallacy. His idea is that we live in an age of the most modern technology,
implying that we live in it in a way we did not before. This debate of
religion versus science and technology has been going on for 200 years.
There is nothing special about the modern day.
He points to the fact that congressmen don’t have a background in science,
and there is a good reason for this. Scientists collect and analyze data.
Scientists do not apply their knowledge, they just try to stream the
knowledge to those who can apply it. Policymaking and science are
different disciplines and should be separated. The scientists are welcome
to present their arguments, and should be given a more intent ear than most
people, but there are very good reasons for scientists not getting involved
in decision making because there is a lot of non-science that has to be
taken into consideration.
Scientists are specialists. A biologist will never be prepared to comment
on sociology, etc… Policymakers need to listen to and make sense of
arguments where they may not necessarily have all the information, but
where they can get just enough to know the correct course of action.
It’s not a perfect system, but…
Keep in mind that the USSR had one of the world’s most extensive scientific
programs. They spent far more on R&D than any other country on the planet,
far more than the United States during the Cold War. The USSR is not with
us today because of their overreliance on science.
*Carl Sagan in 1996 said our society depends on science in every way, yet
very few of us understand it at all.*
Money in politics is one major issue, but it is not the only thing
destroying our society. Technology, and the fact that people who understand
technology are so few and so specialized, have guaranteed that only the
wealthy and powerful can take full advantage of it. A corrupt and powerful
government/corporate ruling class pays knowledgeable people very well to
harness the power of science, producing technology that is used to control
people of lower class.
In this interview, Sagan was more concerned about nuclear
proliferation — the a military class has the power to destroy the whole
planet elite, is ostensibly accountable to the people who know nearly
nothing about it.
But there is no shortage of examples in our generation. The recent *NSA
scandal* and the continued persecution of whistleblowers. Out-of-control *costs
of health care* is another issue resulting from science being controlled
only by the wealthy elite. *Global warming* is monster that is even more of
a problem because of socially engineered ignorance.
I believe even problems like unemployment somehow tie into the
disgraceful scientific ignorance of our society. The ruling class only
looks out for themselves, the only work available is the work that exists
to protect the interests ruling class. If you are not working to that end,
you will not find employment.
We may be able to solve the problem of money in politics, we may
even see a constitutional amendment. But that won’t solve the whole
problem. Scientific literacy needs to improve, worldwide, but especially in
the United States, or the problems we face now will persist for
generations, or destroy us entirely.
I’m glad I don’t live in a democracy. My government makes decisions based
upon merit and nobility; not majority rule. ^^;
We’ve arranged a society based on science & technology in which nobody
understands anything about science and technology. Power+Ignorance
Carl Sagan and Government_ Charlie Rose.wmv
I was never a fan of Carl Sagan but look at the crap that seeks too replace
him>>>>
the “Nasa End of Mankind”, Nibiru, Call From Another Galaxy, Ha!
Schools are a joke. I was told by a teacher that “Evolution is not
important” and we didn’t read the chapter. Then when I got to college. The
Biology professor said “Look, I know how your schools are around here.
Forget everything” It was a nice change.
90% of the people who believe in the Bible have never read the Bible. Go
ahead and try to prove me wrong on that.
What would you tell your 14-year-old self?
My advice would be really -boring: keep on with science subjects, because
understanding of science will be so important in your future life. I’ve
held seminars in No. 10 about graphene and quantum theory, which I love
doing. But I have to read up a lot before I get started. So: a little more
on the physics and chemistry, please, David.
David Cameron ~ Prime Minister
So true. Remember to be skeptical!!!
The government does now run our lives.
“If we don’t understand it, then who’s making the decisions about science
and technology? Just some members of Congress?” – Carl Sagan
I miss you so much Carl.
Prescience, powerful, scary words….
A truly powerful statement from a man who really got me interested in
science as a kid.
“Science is…
+NDSPTuba am sorry I do not need flu shots every year. and even to consider
flu virus turning into new strains they are still flu virus. no one has
observed a flu virus evolving into something else. they are always viruses,
and forever will be. no one has billions of years to wait to see what will
become of the flu virus if given billions of years. so your argument is
invalid. Darwinian evolution is an assumption. not observable.
also God isn’t a magical fairy.
Old ppl = Danger!
The biggest threat to science the that scam called religion. Science is the
seeking of the truth about our universe while religions is about obscuring
the truth.
A PSA, please be skeptical of things.
Sagan’s Warning. A prophecy concerning science and society and truer words
were never spoken.
We couldn’t agree more with Carl Sagan – it’s vital that people understand
the bases of our civilisation: #science and #technology.
And our aim is to be a part of that!
https://publons.com/about/
Carl Sagan and Government_ Charlie Rose.wmv
#government #politics #policy #evidence #skepticism
It unfortunate that evolution deniers, global warming deniers, and GMO
deniers actually get elected to office.
Sagan is totally correct. Pseudoscience is a danger, especially when those
who believe it are dictating political policy. That’s why belief in science
is pretty much my only precondition for who I vote for.
Completely agree with Carl Sagan people without education cannot make
the right laws about technology :))
*“We’ve arranged a society based on science and technology, in which nobody
understands anything about science and technology,”* Sagan said. *“And this
combustible mixture of ignorance and power, sooner or later, is going to
blow up in our faces.”*
Damn straight the government runs us. But which government runs us? It’s
NOT the United States government. The United States government was
SURRENDERED by econometric treaty over 60 years ago to a type 1
civilization. That is the executive branch of the New World Order. Congress
illegally ratified the treaty making this new world type 1 civilization an
ILLEGAL entity. HOWEVER, that does not matter as long as they have TOP DOWN
CONTROL over your lives because, after all, who can make war with a type 1
civilization? The answer is….enlightened people who are willing to stand
for righteousness, truth and honor. If that no longer exists then
march…MARCH toward a new world order. DO IT already and get this over
with. If not, then FIGHT the friggin tyrants! Fight by lawfully
revitalizing the powers back into the hands of the people, by State
statute. Organize your communities and work with your State legislators.
DO IT! Don’t just sit there like dingalings. lol
And in his autobiography this joker claims he gained his best insights into
science while toking on weed! Calling others charlatans is the expert pot
calling the kettle black.
thankfully I think it’s changing, though not fast enough. Eventually people
need to realize that if they want to be part of the changing world instead
of simply watching it from the sidelines, they need to educate themselves
in the sciences and learn to think critically about how science can be
responsibly utilized to drive change.
Do not rely on public education systems to drive knowledge into you. They
are crippled and will continue to remain crippled by the powers that be.
You need to explore on your own. In the age of information ignorance is a
choice
Next week, Carl Sagan will have been dead for 18 years. His last televised
interview was with Charlie Rose, and it was amazing.
Throughout his career, Carl consistently had one clear vision and his
endeavors as a popularizer of science were actually only a means to try to
make his vision a reality.
His message was always that knowledge is the most important tool for
freedom, peace, and fulfillment of humankind’s true potential. That was his
vision: to see humankind rise above it’s pettiness and become something
greater than it ever had been, because he believed we could.
I do too.
Do you?
Carl Sagan and Government_ Charlie Rose.wmv
“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to
criticize.”
“… otherwise we don’t run the government, the government runs us.”
Dr. Sagan was absolutely right. And you can see it today – American
politics, culture, and economies have not been able to keep up the rate of
scientific and technological advancement. Have we reached a tipping point?
Perhaps this is the reason why the fervently religious seem crazier than
ever, why some people are so drawn to the past, and why some are afraid of
the future.
I think this can – and will – change. All we need to do is educate.
One might say.. Prophetic.
via +Upworthy
“The republicans have just abolished their own office of technology
assessment”
That’s probably a good thing.
You can see, in the comments here, people affected by the very thing he was
trying to warn about.
Those with extreme ignorance of science are easily duped into fearing said
science and blaming it on problems that don’t exist. And so when someone
comes along to ensure them that they will fix those problems they gullibly
accept this ‘help.’
He hit everything right on the head…especially about the skeptical on
what is told by others
Predicted? What’s true now about what he said that wasn’t in 1996 when he
said it?
Carl Sagan and government.
Shortly before he died seventeen years ago, Dr Carl Sagan was interviewed
about the drastic need for science education in a world which depends
entirely on science but where so many people are scientifically indifferent.
I do not think the situation has improved, either here in Australia or in
America. The indifference to science manifests itself as ignorance, often
leading to opposition and contempt.
The prophets of religion got it mostly wrong but Carl Sagan was always
right.
industrialist elites will use any technique in order to continue reaping
profit until they no longer can or are chastise by society and made to
stop. With the latter they will use and abuse religion, science,
philosophy, general ignorance to delay and obfuscate society’s ability to
stop their damaging practices.
Four “thumbs down” for this video?! That exactly shows what the problem is.
A giant of human thought predicting 2013 in 1996.